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Petition for cross-platform licensing
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mfhlaw
2007-02-20 22:33:37 UTC
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Agreed!!! I dropped a pretty penny on my Windows version of CS2 and would love to use it on my Mac without Bootcamp.
alabaster007
2007-02-20 23:06:13 UTC
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Totaly agree. Adobe's licensing policy is now out of date.
alabaster007
2007-02-20 23:07:36 UTC
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Adobe used to provide cross platform licensing..... what happened?
marko_62
2007-03-26 08:19:28 UTC
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Appearently no CS3 cross-platform licencing. :-(
Adobe could have easily cut this mess of boxes in half but no. I'm dissapointed.
http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=2600
Sim-R
2007-02-16 19:18:39 UTC
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Makes sense - COMMON sense . I'm all for it .
Paul Redstone
2007-03-26 18:19:30 UTC
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Totally agree with the Cross Platform idea. Currently using a MacPro and hate to be unable to have CS3 on only one side for a variety of program reasons.
Stuart Carnie
2007-03-26 18:31:22 UTC
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I will be equally disappointed if this is ultimately the case.

I am an individual, who has a Macbook Pro and a PC, and would like to be able
to use the software on either. I will be the only one using it, but for a
variety of reasons, I too may be need to use the software on either platform.

Cheers,

Stuart
doctorvance
2007-03-27 11:35:31 UTC
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The original post asked for those who would still like to be able to run one
copy on Windows and one copy on Mac. Those who have 2 Mac (or windows)
machines are able to run a second copy. We would just like to be able to run
cross platform without having to buy an additional license. (You cannot just
upgrade, you need to pay full price if you want to keep even an earlier version
of the other platform functional)
So, in answer to the original post, I agree.
iranem
2007-03-27 20:52:36 UTC
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I also agree. However,another possibility would be to allow an upgrade to Mac
PS3 from PC PS2.
This is somewhere inbetween and would allow me to use PS3 on my intelmac
without having to spend the considerable $'s involved in buying a full
(non-upgrade) Mac version of PS3.
Christina Wiley
2007-03-27 22:03:20 UTC
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I'm not going to get back into this, I just want to clarify something for ALZ55
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A Mac is a Mac. The upgrade path from PPC to Intel is NOT considered a
platform change. It's more about the OS, not the hardware. CS3 will be a
universal binary that will run on both processors.

-c

BTW, I am making sure they hear you all.
acondiff
2007-03-27 22:44:13 UTC
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guys, its not gonna happen! its already been announced and the date has already been set.

as bad as i wanted it too, its just not going to happen.
GlennSS
2007-03-27 23:45:10 UTC
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I agree 1000%, make the license Mac and Windows!
marko_62
2007-03-30 16:05:54 UTC
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This is my last post regarding this matter. Yes, Adobe sticks to its outdated
licencing modell so I already called customer service and requested a
crossgrade from CS2 WIN to CS3 MAC. It is possible but somehow awkward and
nowhere on Adobes website you can find a single word regarding this
possibility. It's a secret pssst! Anyway soon I'll be on a Mac with the
possibility to install a second copy on a second Mac. Hurray, ehh it's only bad
that I have no second Mac at the moment just a Windows machine.

I know I'm repeating myself but its so hard to understand for me. As far as I
see CS3 will have software activation for each and every program in the suite
and you'll have to deactivate all software from the (i think) help menu if you
want to install it on a different computer. You simply can't use more than two
copies. So why, why, why can't Adobe put the Mac and Windows version onto one
DVD?

How much CS3 Products is Adobe going to release? They say if I remember
correctly it's 16 products but in reality it's a whopping 32! Why? Because
Adobe considers each Mac and each Windows version as a different product with
it's own licence. But they don't say that. They speak of 16 as if someone could
install a product on Mac and Windows.
Ok Adobe if you like bureaucracy continue on.
A.Dias
2007-03-31 05:48:06 UTC
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[q][i]Originally posted by: [b][b]marko_62[/b][/b][/i]
This is my last post regarding this matter. Yes, Adobe sticks to its outdated
licencing modell so I already called customer service and requested a
crossgrade from CS2 WIN to CS3 MAC. It is possible but somehow awkward and
nowhere on Adobes website you can find a single word regarding this
possibility. It's a secret pssst! Anyway soon I'll be on a Mac with the
possibility to install a second copy on a second Mac. Hurray, ehh it's only bad
that I have no second Mac at the moment just a Windows machine.

I know I'm repeating myself but its so hard to understand for me. As far as I
see CS3 will have software activation for each and every program in the suite
and you'll have to deactivate all software from the (i think) help menu if you
want to install it on a different computer. You simply can't use more than two
copies. So why, why, why can't Adobe put the Mac and Windows version onto one
DVD?

How much CS3 Products is Adobe going to release? They say if I remember
correctly it's 16 products but in reality it's a whopping 32! Why? Because
Adobe considers each Mac and each Windows version as a different product with
it's own licence. But they don't say that. They speak of 16 as if someone could
install a product on Mac and Windows.
Ok Adobe if you like bureaucracy continue on.

[/q]

I could not agree with you more. I think that Adobe is not changing its unfair
policy for CS3. Maybe CS4 2 years from now.

I have multiple (Windows ) PS licenses and I just converted an old CS Windows
into CS2 OS X. I plan to continue using my other Windows CS2 on my Windows
machine. Given that I use OS X more than Windows theses days, I see no
justification to upgrade CS2 in my Windows machine. The new stuff in CS3 does
not justify it.
dpic2
2007-03-27 22:35:16 UTC
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Hear me, too. I have both and would like to use CS3 on each machine.
Christina Wiley
2007-03-30 18:13:12 UTC
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"They speak of 16 as if someone could install a product on Mac and Windows."

Where exactly do they speak of this? At no time have I ever inferred that
Adobe products were cross platform. That's not because I work here, that's
from using them for the last 15+ years.
I'm certainly not saying I agree with the policy, but I've never had any
confusion about it. Microsoft doesn't do this with Office. As far as I know
no other major production suite handles licensing in any other way. The only
software I can think of that does are my games by Blizzard.
troyhark
2007-04-01 09:39:55 UTC
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[q][i]Originally posted by: [b][b]Christina Wiley[/b][/b][/i][q]My CS2 package
is like 6 disks. The Windows and Mac versions in one package would double
that. And then I'd have a bunch of Windows CDs that I'd never use. For the
vast majority of users this would be a waste.[/q]You simply say wether or not
you want XPlatform or Single Platfrom at purchase. Problem solved.


[q]As far as I know no other major production suite handles licensing in any
other way. The only software I can think of that does are my games by
Blizzard.[/q]
Quark. An obscure DTP thingie!

[i] ?In an effort to provide our customers with the most efficient and
effective way to use QuarkXPress at home and at work, we are providing
platform-independent licensing,? said J?rgen Kurz, Quark senior vice president
of desktop products. ?Creative minds should be free to design and innovate on
any platform, and Quark is continuing to provide that freedom with our creative
tools.? Individual QuarkXPress users can now "double-activate" a single license
on different platforms at no additional cost; customers can use the same
QuarkXPress 7 license on Windows or Mac OS ? or both."[/i]

Oh and there's this other new fangled programme that is XPlatform, Lightroom.
Made by errr.... oh yes, Adobe!
marko_62
2007-04-01 12:20:30 UTC
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[q][i]Originally posted by: [b][b]troyhark[/b][/b][/i]
[Q][I]Originally posted by: [B][B]Christina Wiley[/B][/B][/I][Q]My CS2 package
is like 6 disks. The Windows and Mac versions in one package would double
that. And then I'd have a bunch of Windows CDs that I'd never use. For the
vast majority of users this would be a waste.[/Q]You simply say whether or not
you want XPlatform or Single Platfrom at purchase. Problem solved. The extra
manufacturing costs will also neglible in regard to total price of product.

... or you deliver Suites on DVDs or you allow the download of the installer
for the other platform.
100331035
2007-03-30 19:39:19 UTC
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cross platform licensing is only fair. We have purchased a license to use
Adobe software. It is not Adobe's concern which platform I use.

Adobe's attempts to thwart software piracy are completely ineffective. there
are hacked versions available for free, or nearly free on the internet.

This childish ineffective software security is punishing paying customers, not
increasing product sales.


piss on microsoft (google that and see a funny photo)
Andrew N Maier
2007-03-31 00:20:03 UTC
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Sigh. I am trying to get my co-op employer to purchase me a copy of CS3 for my
workstation. Problem is, I am a student, so I want to be able to do work awa
from the office on my mac. Adobe won't allow this. I am one person using one
product. Why can I play WoW at work and on my MacBook Pro but not be
productive? It's pretty backwards.
Claus Jepsen
2007-04-01 14:27:49 UTC
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I fully agree. Because of this, I canŽt afford to switch to Mac. It really is a crazy policy.
garypoyssick
2007-04-01 22:20:34 UTC
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A great deal of the two years spent rewriting this software was to get it to
run at all on an Intel chip in a universal space. I cannot begin to tell you
how many times either Apple, MS, or other outside parties just didn't think the
whole 'graphics thing' was worth time or a great deal of effort. Even Apple is
a little iPod-focused and does not dedicate the kind of resources to things
like Photoshop or Illustrator that they thought necessary ten years ago.

Speaking from the standpoint of a person who has to develop training materials
for real-world environments in all relative platforms, Windows never was and
still isn't the big deal it's made out to be. And in the year or more that the
Adobe apps have been in the hands of people just like all of you on these
forums, we've seen a lot of situations where testers -- on their own -- went
out, bought Intel Macs, configured Red Pill (Photoshop before December 15th of
2006) and ran it on both OSs on one machine. They had access to the software in
return for time spent testing this stuff to get it working in the first place
-- engineering teams working on a dozen universal-space apps at one time are
not -- they really aren't -- calculating how much more money Adobe stock will
be worth if they trick everyone into having to buy two copies of their software
instead of one. People do because they have to. This is not, as much as some of
you appear to want to believe -- a conspiracy on the part of a public
corporation.

Adobe's decision to stay within strict -- and considerably different -- OS
requirements did not, in any way, come from them. So blame who you want, but
you really don't have all the information you need to take the 'villagers with
torches' attitude and waste your time and that of the world who deals with
reality the way it is -- by organizing some kind of 'mass rally'. Ain't gonna
work, never did, never will.

Gary Poyssick in Tampa, Florida



gary in Tampa
taution
2007-04-11 05:20:42 UTC
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I agree adobe should release a cross platform version of cs3, serious
developers cannot be chained to one platform and still expected to deliver
bugfree crossplatform experiences for users. This is a typical example of
shareholder interests over users. which enevidably will hurt sales.
RJ_RJ
2007-04-13 04:33:57 UTC
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I agree that Adobe should change its license policy and open it to dual
platform. If you ever take any kind of professional instruction by adobe
certified instructors they teach on both platforms. As many of us have both
platforms that we use simultaneously.

RJ
slocomb
2007-04-13 17:00:42 UTC
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I don't have anything new to add...just bought a tricked out PC laptop a couple
of months ago and am thinking about replacing my 3 year old desktop PC
editing/animation computer with a MAC. I thought maybe with a cross-grade to a
MAC I might get by with continuing to run my CS2 programs on the laptop, but
that doesn't seem possible. So I am in a quandry. It makes me nuts, as there
are lots of folks running hacked versions around here, without a care in the
world. They don't really compete with me and so I don't get too bent out of
shape about them...maybe just a little envious.

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