ImageReady?

[seanr]

I almost never used ImageReady, but I would like the ability to set up rollover
states in Photoshop if only for the purpose of quickly exporting multiple
images at the same time. The ability to generate those various states
automatically was very useful even if you don;t use the html code (I hand code
everything in XHTML and CSS).

[by Buko]

You can still use your old CS2 ImageReady.

[seanr]

Yeah, but I'd MUCH rather have that integrated into Photoshop. The whole point
is I'm already creating slices in Photoshop and using the save for web feature
there (have been for a long time), so I don't want to have to load another
program just for one feature.

[{TgR}Lemm]

Dear Adobe,

I notice there are no staff replies to this forum topic for some while -
please can we have a straight answer: "Is ImageReady functionality going to be
included in PSCS3?" I do not want to have to buy Firefox in additon to PS CS3
and DW CS3. We use ImageReady a lot for our website work - from PS CS2 and into
DW MX2004. My current feeling is that we need to stick with our old versions
and not upgrade as we will lose out - Please let me know if I have
misunderstood something here. Willing to upgrade but not for reduced capability!
Thanks

Brian

[Ramón G Castañeda]

Post by {TgR}Lemm
"Is ImageReady functionality going to be
included in PSCS3?" I do not want to have to buy Firefox in additon to PS CS3
and DW CS3

What the heck does Firefox have to do with PS CS3 and DW CS3?

[by Buko]

ImageReady is discontinued. Adobe has given this answer many times.
It is not included in CS3. Believe it.
You can still use ImageReady CS2 it will still function just fine. You just
won"t be able to jump from PSCS3 to IRCS2. You can however still jump between
PSCS2 and IRCS2 as you could before.
Installing CS3 does not render your CS2 software inoperable.

I do not Work for Adobe.

[dbeifeld]

Nice. Now I have to run three applications (CS3, CS2 ad IR) to accomplish what
I use to get done with two (CS2 and IR). Perhaps you would like to let Adobe
off the hook for this one, but I don't; especially in the way they gave us no
indication that useful functionality was left out of CS3. In addition, CS3 is
not fully compatible with CS2 (or IR) so you need to be careful working between
versions.

Yes, I have adopted other methods to get around the lost funtionality of IR
but my point is that I think the user community has been treated shabbily and
been poorly informed on this point; I expected more from Adobe.

[Chad Baker]

Buko is right. ImageReady is gone. Most of ImageReady's features are included
in Photoshop CS3. A few notable exceptions are rollovers, nested tables, image
maps, conditional action, and swf export. For those you'll need a web
application like Fireworks or Dreamweaver.

The were a lot of reasons for not porting these features over. Probably the
best one is that ImageReady was created to solve
web layout issues from the 1990s. Using tables, nested tables, for layout
and image based rollovers is outdated, less accessible (vision or hearing
impaired) and less standards based. The industry as whole has moved to CSS
based layouts and rollovers.

After Photoshop launches, there will be a knowledge base document that lists
ImageReady features and where to find them in Photoshop CS3.

[{TgR}Lemm]

Thanks Buko and Chad for the useful info.

I suppose if CS2 is still usable once CS3 (DW and PS) are in I have a fall
back position without needing to buy Fireworks. I am beta running PS CS3 and am
aware that the workflow for websites is not as slick - but obviously this is
not the prime aim of PS.

Brian

[David.A]

Quite obviously it was meant to be Fireworks..

[heathrowe]

indeed dbeifeld, a mess for IR users.
And at worse a total of five apps (the 3 you mention, now DW and Flash) just to streamline what was ordinarily accomplished with IR.

[Chad Baker]

I'm not following your math. Photoshop CS3 and either Dreamweaver or Fireworks. That's still two applications.

[heathrowe]

I was never that great at math either :)

ImageReady cannot be installed as a solo app so the end user has to keep
Photoshop CS2 intact. (1 and 2)
User upgrades to CS3 Std or Extended (3).
User cannot open a simple animated gif in STD or Extended so either GO BACK to
ImageReady or use Flash (3) or Fireworks (4).
User cannot perform rollovers, nested tables and other IR functions mentioned
in this thread but have to rely on either Dreamweaver (4) or Golive (5) for
behaviors.
User cannot export to swf in Std or Ext but have to rely on Flash (3) or
Fireworks (4).

Integration with the Suite applications is fine with me but to keep an ealier
version just to do some routine operations (manipulate existing animated gifs,
rollovers, export to swf) is unnacceptable.

[{TgR}Lemm]

"a document has been prepared to help users transition from the old workflow to
the new one. It will be available at launch. "

Thanks Chad - I think that document will be the best source of info to make
the decision on what to buy.

Whilst accepting the respective prime purposes of DW and PS, I just hope as
they are now are produced by the same company it would be really brill if the
integration between the two covered the common web site workflow items such as
rollovers, slices etc without the need for other software.

Thanks :)

Brian

[dbeifeld]

That's right - two applications, minimum, both expensive under the new CS3 way of doing business. Unlike CS2 which of course was bundled with IR for the price of a single application.

[{TgR}Lemm]

Well we don't know that yet.....that's what the quoted document is all about,
There are magazine articles beginning to appear about the relationship between
PS CS3 and DW CS3 and they are also saying that this is to be revealed - so I
am happy to wait until the information is available before jumping to
conclusions.

B

[Chad Baker]

http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=kb400899

[{TgR}Lemm]

Chad, Thanks for the information - that is very useful.

Brian

[wnorm]

Thanks for that post Chad.